Troy McClure 12:12 Fri Jan 17
ITV: White House Farm (Jeremy Bamber)
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The true story of the massacre at White House farm in Essex back in 1985.
Anyone else watching it? Very good except for Stephen Graham’s welsh accent.
Remember this happening... him crying at the funeral the absolute snake.
35 years inside and still claiming his innocence.... surely not...
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Vexed
12:27 Fri Jan 17
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Saw the first episode, it was uncomfortable viewing.
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solidbond
12:58 Fri Jan 17
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Did he do it though?
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Nurse Ratched
1:08 Fri Jan 17
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Well put it this way: if Sheila did it -murdered everyone in the house, then turned the gun on herself - who put the silencer away in the cupboard? Also, Neville's body showed signs of a desperate struggle. Do you believe a seven stone slip of a woman, typically almost catatonic on strong medication, would have been able to overcome a burly farmer?
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Alfs
1:12 Fri Jan 17
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Where do I find it?
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Alfs
1:12 Fri Jan 17
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ITV, I guess. It's late.
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Pagey
1:43 Fri Jan 17
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Stephen Graham’s accent is terrible!
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Manuel
2:24 Fri Jan 17
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I remember this well from the time and actually watched a youtube doc on it some time last year.
Guilty as hell for me, and wasn't that far away from getting away with it.
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gank
5:07 Fri Jan 17
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What I want to know, is how did Jeremy Bamber pull the trigger with that little baby hand?
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Northern Sold
11:36 Fri Jan 17
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Excellent viewing so far...
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southbankbornnbred
11:41 Fri Jan 17
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I know the folk at the production company who made this series - they're a talented, hard working bunch.
Apparently there was a lot of to-ing and fro-ing with the police etc while they were developing the project. Still an enormous amount of sensitivity around the incident, despite the fact that it was 35 years ago.
Looking forward to watching it.
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North Bank
11:44 Fri Jan 17
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Very good watch so far with a good cast, there are many conspiracy theorists out thee demanding his release claiming his innocence and a OB stitch up
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southbankbornnbred
11:50 Fri Jan 17
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In all likelihood, he did it.
The vast majority of the reliable evidence suggests he did it.
I've often had to look at cold cases and what you tend to find (as in this case) is that, years later, people pick up on the two or three things which might cast some doubt on the conviction - but ignore a heap of evidence which led to the conviction in the first instance, and which has tended to be forgotten as the conspiracy theory/alternative narrative has taken over.
There comes a point in these cases when the simple fact that somebody has been caught and convicted for the crime is not enough for some people - they want it to be more dramatic and espouse a false narrative as a consequence. A kind of cognitive dissonance.
I'm not an expert on this case, but from what I do know of it - there are too many physical impossibilities involved in the 'Sheila did it' narrative. As Nurse said, if she did, then who moved the silencer?
Should be an interesting series, though. The production company behind it, New Pictures, are thorough.
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southbankbornnbred
11:59 Fri Jan 17
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That's not to say that miscarriages of justice don't happen - of course they do. You only have to look at the Birmingham Six case to see that. But they tend to be the exception and not the norm.
The bigger "miscarriages" these days tend to be those cases where somebody gets off because the prosecution cannot get to the required evidence threshold.
I genuinely know the identities of several murderers, absolute nailed on murderers, who are currently walking about because there just isn't enough evidence to get the CPS to the required threshold.
Must be very frustrating if you are a detective.
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Northern Sold
12:03 Fri Jan 17
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Got a MATE that lives in Tolleshut D'Arcy... lovely place as well... have to ask him next time over there where the White House Farm is
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Toe Rag
12:13 Fri Jan 17
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At the time of the murder Bamber lived in a house in Goldhanger that his stepfather owned.
I did a job in the house next door.
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Toe Rag
12:18 Fri Jan 17
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Most people I spoke to thought he was an arsehole and definitely did it.
In the unlikely event he’s ever released he won’t get a warm welcome in The Chequers Inn (great pub btw).
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Percy Dalton
12:18 Fri Jan 17
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My mate said Neville was a lovely bloke very accommodating.
On the other hand Jeremy was a flash shit.
My mate used to deliver poisons to the farm where only Neville was registered to sign for them.
On one occasion Neville wasn't about and Jeremy said he'd sign the register which my mate refused.
Said he went into one like a big baby.
I go past Bamber's house in Goldhanger fairly often when I walk from Heybridge Basin.
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Manuel
12:18 Fri Jan 17
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Sold - Won't be hard to locate. Unsurprisingly, I believe it's changed it's name now.
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TWe
12:20 Fri Jan 17
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Northern Sold 12:03 Fri Jan 17
It's a right hand turn off the road that runs between Tolleshunt D'Arcy and Tollesbury. Pages Lane.
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Percy Dalton
12:43 Fri Jan 17
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Toe Rag
You're right the Chequers is a lovely pub.
My niece works behind the ramp there great food and atmosphere.
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